05/24/08 - Bruce Williams:The REAL Doctor's Advocate Pt3(Talks About Detox,Game,50)

YoungAl3xG · 05-24-2008, 02:55 PM

“Detox is the concept Dre had been trying to fully conceptualize for years. He was so serious at one point just after the second Chronic album that he had T-shirts made up…It was the farewell album he would walk off to, the one that might show him graduating from gangsta rap, basically. It made sense, going from The Chronic to Detox , because that’s what Dre had done, basically. The problem was, he didn’t know what to write about. Who wanted to hear about his stable, suburban life?” pgs 144-145

HipHopDX: Detox. You already know my question…
Bruce Williams: People are on Dre about Detox and Dre never really wanted to do Detox. He’s 40-something [editor's note: 43] years old, what’s he going to talk about? He’s gotta relate to these 13 year olds buying records. What is he going to talk about? He can’t come out here saying, "Fuck the police," he can’t keep talking about smoking weed, he’s been there and done all that. Where is there to go now? But it has to be done and he’s going to make sure that shit is right before he puts it out.

DX: Will we have to wait much longer to wait for Detox?
BW: I don’t think so. If it comes out, I’ll be shocked - and I’ll also know that it has to come out.

“…But Rakim was not the rapper he once was. He didn’t even rhyme in the studio with the crew hanging out. Dude was writing only at home. Dre wanted to do tracks in a way that allowed you to feel the camaraderie. Rakim’s a legend, but he was a legend in his day. The chemistry between these two just wasn’t there…” – pg 128

DX: So what exactly happened with the whole Rakim ordeal?
BW: Oh My God album? Every time Dre did an interview, they asked him what emcee he would love to work with and his response was always the same: Rakim. We went through all this stuff trying to get Rakim and finally, Dre got Rakim. And with a title like Oh My God, the public was waiting on some astronomical shit! And they just never meshed together. A few of 50 Cent’s songs on Get Rich Or Die Tryin' were Rakim songs. Like “Back Down” and “Heat;” there were quite a few of them.

I’ll put it to you like this: Rakim is a legend…let a legend be a legend. With all these new emcees and things sometimes the world is not going to appreciate this. We appreciate it because we grew up on it.

DX: What is the deal with Aftermath and the “revolving door” of artists?
BW: Look at Aftermath. Are they a household name? No, they’re not. I can say Aftermath, and people will say, “Who is that?” but when I say Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Eminem then they get an idea. If you say G-Unit [click to read], everybody knows G-Unit. If you say Shady, everyone knows Shady. Aftermath is not a household name because we don’t put out enough stuff.

Everybody’s catering to Dre and he don’t have time to nurture new artists. Why do you think Game had so many problems? Game couldn’t do hooks. But for two years he was hustling by himself.

If you don’t push the acts that you have in your company, then your company will never be made whole. Dre is doing records for everyone else on Interscope and not building his own company up. That contributes to not really being a businessman.

“When that beef between 50 Cent and The Game went public, Al Sharpton called over and asked for a half a million dollars. Otherwise he was going to bring the heat on behalf of 'The Community.' We gave him $250,000. Then we had The Game and 50 make up in public, holding an elaborate press conference.” Pg. 148

DX: In your book you basically say that Al Sharpton hustled you guys for money in order to not go and publicly march about the Game/50 Cent beef.
BW: He said if we didn’t have a million, we marching. It’s that easy. Look at C. Delores Tucker back in the day. They was sitting up there talking all that bullshit when behind closed doors they was trying to start their own label. But that isn’t what they were telling motherfuckers in the street! We got a lot of black leaders that don’t do shit to me. I don’t see what they do. In the [Game vs. 50 Cent] situation, you are going to come and say, "We need ‘X’ amount of money,” whether you are going to give it to charity or not. Why don’t you come and say, “Hey, let’s all of us sit down and figure this out;” don’t come and say, “Give me a half a million dollars or we marching!” That didn’t even get the situation resolved. You seen it. They didn’t even look like they squashed anything.

DX: So the so called squashing of the beef…
BW: The entire thing was orchestrated by Al Sharpton.

DX: Come on…are you serious?
BW: Yeah, they do that shit all the time man! [So-called activists] don’t want nothing but money.
We had to go to New York for this big meeting. Quincy Jones, Colin Powell, dude who runs Black Enterprise magazine [Earl G. Graves, Sr.], one of Malcolm X’s daughters, Puffy. When Death Row was big. They were trying to tell us how to use our power and use our money. Where were you when we were trying to get this money? None of you were trying to get us a record deal, yet, all of you talk shit about us and then you don’t put a foot forward [in helping us]. They try to tell us how to use our money but they weren’t fucking with us before that.

“’You know what?' asked Busta Rhymes after taking in one particularly take, ‘When you’re rappin’, sometimes your shit is just so borderline disrespectful. I mean you really take it there!’

Everyone busted out laughing.

That’s what’s great about The Game. And that’s his problem too. His 2004 album, The Documentary, is the sound of someone struggling to keep up with the talent around him. He didn’t always respect his place in the process…” – pg 140

DX: So back to 50 Cent and Game. How real was this beef?
BW: Game and 50 wasn’t cool with that situation from jump. Jimmy Iovine was the one who was the brainchild of putting Game in G-Unit because that gave G-Unit a bigger presence on the west coast, plus Game had a bigger buzz on the east than the west at the time. So that way Game could ride with G-Unit and vice versa. Just for bigger album sales.

But you gotta understand that Lloyd Banks and Tony Yayo were soldiers for 50. Game already had a deal with Aftermath. Game already had his own people. Game and 50 are very similar in their ways, and never really did like each other. But they understood the game. 50 gave Game a few of his songs for Game’s album and those were Game’s biggest hits. [50 Cent] did the hooks. But 50 wanted Game to be a soldier and Game did not want to be a soldier. That’s just the way it was. 50 wanted to be the boss.

You gotta think about the timing of all this. At one time, everyone was talking about Game. 50 was pushing up his album. All the beef stuff was a little orchestration of jealousy.

The video for “This Is How We Do” was supposed to be like this: one side of the street would be Cali and the other side would be New York. 50’s on one side and Game would be on the other. 50 didn’t want to do the video. Reason why? [50 Cent said] “Game wasn’t on my level if people see me and Game doing a video together they will think that he’s on my level.”

DX: Damn…
BW: I felt Dre should have stepped up to the plate on that. He’s the icon, he could have shut that whole thing down. Sometimes you have to take that role. But if you don’t, the beef is going to go where it’s going to go.

DX: So did you ever hear all these so called projects that were supposed to come out that never did?
BW: Did I hear it? Shit, I still got it!

DX: Are there that many songs in the vault?
BW: He has a whole bunch of songs that never made it out. I still have Rakim songs.

DX: What about the rumored Helter Skelter album with Ice Cube?
BW: We didn’t finish the Helter Skelter album. If Dre ever decides to put out the shit that he has in the vault, you’d be like, “Wow!”

DX: So what finally led to your departure from Dre and the industry?
BW: I want our whole crew to make it. Dre was supposed to be the roots of that strong tree and we were supposed to be the branches. Don’t tell me what we’re going to do. Seventeen years went by and nothing materialized. I got three kids and a wife. He didn’t want to hear my mouth anymore so he had me doing stuff for his wife. I started thinking that I was going to be a retired-ass dude who never got to do what he wanted to do. You want to step out on your own but you think about being around Dre for so long and how is the rest of the world going to accept me? I just finally made that decision. My last conversation in Aftermath with Dre was me telling him I had to go to a meeting…I just never came back.

“In hindsight, things have gone down between me and the biz exactly as they are supposed to.
Experience was the salary at both Death Row and Aftermath. My genius friend can be irresponsible and self-absorbed, but the cat can teach a lesson in his own special way.

I’m happy where I am now. I helped make history with my man Dre. And I got to witness the strengths of street knowledge – and its weaknesses. And even if a part of me wishes I could have been there to watch the Doctor struggle through another album-patient, I’m not complaining in the least. It ain’t all bad being the man next to da man.”

source-hiphopdx.com

Jarome · 05-24-2008, 03:04 PM

wow man that was a nice read...

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But they understood the game. 50 gave Game a few of his songs for Game’s album and those were Game’s biggest hits. [50 Cent] did the hooks. But 50 wanted Game to be a soldier and Game did not want to be a soldier. That’s just the way it was. 50 wanted to be the boss.

You gotta think about the timing of all this. At one time, everyone was talking about Game. 50 was pushing up his album. All the beef stuff was a little orchestration of jealousy.

The video for “This Is How We Do” was supposed to be like this: one side of the street would be Cali and the other side would be New York. 50’s on one side and Game would be on the other. 50 didn’t want to do the video. Reason why? [50 Cent said] “Game wasn’t on my level if people see me and Game doing a video together they will think that he’s on my level.”

Wow I never expected Curtis to see himself on such high standards to NOT make a video clip with Game back then... everyone knows How We Do was a big mother fucking hit...

It's nice to have some explanations on this beef, like some real talk.

BTW: These black ppl orchestring the "peacefull" crap and all, they are some rotten fuckers, lookin' for everyone's money or elselike they'll bitch everyone about it.

propz, good read.

London89 · 05-24-2008, 03:25 PM

50 knew Game was gonna blow up to become big...he was from the westcoast home of gangster rap...50 a selfish and jelous motherfucker!!! 1

Gametime310 · 05-24-2008, 03:35 PM

game surpassed 50's level

g-unit buzzin · 05-24-2008, 03:47 PM

so game was telling teh truth when he said 50 was jealous

Flipperacci · 05-24-2008, 04:27 PM

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Plus Game had a bigger buzz on the east than the west at the time. So that way Game could ride with G-Unit and vice versa. Just for bigger album sales.

Putting Game in G-UNIt was a great business move for G-UNIT in the west. True that. But like the nigga said. Put Game in G-UNIT for bigger album sales. If Game wasn't in G-UNIT he wouldn't be this big. He been signed before but couldn't come out. Game had a chance before 50 to blow up. But he didn't.

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50 gave Game a few of his songs for Game’s album and those were Game’s biggest hits. [50 Cent] did the hooks. But 50 wanted Game to be a soldier and Game did not want to be a soldier. That’s just the way it was. 50 wanted to be the boss.

I don't agree with that. 50 is the boss of G-Unit. If you signed to G-UNIT he's gonna be your boss. Thats just the way it is. Then he shouldn't be signed to G-UNIT. When you got your own business but you reply for an job and they hire you get an boss over there. Thats just the way it works.

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The video for “This Is How We Do” was supposed to be like this: one side of the street would be Cali and the other side would be New York. 50’s on one side and Game would be on the other. 50 didn’t want to do the video. Reason why? [50 Cent said] “Game wasn’t on my level if people see me and Game doing a video together they will think that he’s on my level.

FUCK ALL YA'LL. I agree with 50. First all. Game was signed before 50. Dre would drop him cuz it didn't worked out. 50 helped him. Banks and Buck wrote their album on their own. 50 gave Game his biggest hits so it's true that Game isn't on his level.
When 2pac said in Hit'em Up that those niggaz weren't on his level nobody disagreed. Now that 50 said it everybody has something to say.
If 50 gave Game his biggest hits that he's right. Game isn't on his level.

xtreme08 · 05-24-2008, 05:20 PM

just shows how much of a snake snitchy cent is

DaTalkOfCaLi · 05-24-2008, 07:11 PM

Al sharpto is a crooked muthafuka....I fukn hate that fake ass nigga...I'm no 1 to be talkn about anyone being a godly person or not...but 4rm wat I see this nigga is not godly if he is threating ppl 4 money

Fuck all sharpton...fak eass perm havn muthafukan bitch

NiGgA_GoTs_WaVeZ · 05-24-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipperacci

Putting Game in G-UNIt was a great business move for G-UNIT in the west. True that. But like the nigga said. Put Game in G-UNIT for bigger album sales. If Game wasn't in G-UNIT he wouldn't be this big. He been signed before but couldn't come out. Game had a chance before 50 to blow up. But he didn't.

I don't agree with that. 50 is the boss of G-Unit. If you signed to G-UNIT he's gonna be your boss. Thats just the way it is. Then he shouldn't be signed to G-UNIT. When you got your own business but you reply for an job and they hire you get an boss over there. Thats just the way it works.

FUCK ALL YA'LL. I agree with 50. First all. Game was signed before 50. Dre would drop him cuz it didn't worked out. 50 helped him. Banks and Buck wrote their album on their own. 50 gave Game his biggest hits so it's true that Game isn't on his level.
When 2pac said in Hit'em Up that those niggaz weren't on his level nobody disagreed. Now that 50 said it everybody has something to say.
If 50 gave Game his biggest hits that he's right. Game isn't on his level.

reall talk....
errthang u said is tru

chickenwings · 05-24-2008, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by g-unit buzzin

so game was telling teh truth when he said 50 was jealous

no, he flipped it around. game was jealous of 50 and wanted to be the boss. 50 was like 'i dont think so nigga, i already am the boss!'

Otto Boss Hogg · 05-24-2008, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by NiGgA_GoTs_WaVeZ

reall talk....
errthang u said is tru

everything he said is bullshit...

i'll neva take the word of a dickrydin nigga over in amsterdam over somebody who was there and knows what he talkin bout

Otto Boss Hogg · 05-24-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipperacci

Putting Game in G-UNIt was a great business move for G-UNIT in the west. True that. But like the nigga said. Put Game in G-UNIT for bigger album sales. If Game wasn't in G-UNIT he wouldn't be this big. He been signed before but couldn't come out. Game had a chance before 50 to blow up. But he didn't.

TRUE BUT LIKE HE SAID GAME WAS ALREADY BIG ON THE EAST THRU THE MIXTAPES

I don't agree with that. 50 is the boss of G-Unit. If you signed to G-UNIT he's gonna be your boss. Thats just the way it is. Then he shouldn't be signed to G-UNIT. When you got your own business but you reply for an job and they hire you get an boss over there. Thats just the way it works.

YEA HE THE BOSS OF G-UNIT....NOT AFTERMATH...GAME WAS AFTERMATH FIRST AND FOREMOST...HOW U GON BE THAT COCKY TALKIN BOUT HE AINT ON HIS LEVEL BUT THAT SAME DUDE IS LYRICALLY BETTER THAN U...OK 50 CAN WRITE HOOKS...WHOPTY FUCKIN DO....

FUCK ALL YA'LL. I agree with 50. First all. Game was signed before 50. Dre would drop him cuz it didn't worked out. 50 helped him. Banks and Buck wrote their album on their own. 50 gave Game his biggest hits so it's true that Game isn't on his level.
When 2pac said in Hit'em Up that those niggaz weren't on his level nobody disagreed. Now that 50 said it everybody has something to say.
If 50 gave Game his biggest hits that he's right. Game isn't on his level.

50 gave banks and buck 3 records too...so wtf r u talkin bout...in da club is 50's biggest hit...if he'd put out how we do...no matter how good it is...it wouldnt be as big as in da club...especially if he raps on it by himself

DOJA FLOPS HARD · 05-24-2008, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipperacci

Putting Game in G-UNIt was a great business move for G-UNIT in the west. True that. But like the nigga said. Put Game in G-UNIT for bigger album sales. If Game wasn't in G-UNIT he wouldn't be this big. He been signed before but couldn't come out. Game had a chance before 50 to blow up. But he didn't.

I don't agree with that. 50 is the boss of G-Unit. If you signed to G-UNIT he's gonna be your boss. Thats just the way it is. Then he shouldn't be signed to G-UNIT. When you got your own business but you reply for an job and they hire you get an boss over there. Thats just the way it works.

FUCK ALL YA'LL. I agree with 50. First all. Game was signed before 50. Dre would drop him cuz it didn't worked out. 50 helped him. Banks and Buck wrote their album on their own. 50 gave Game his biggest hits so it's true that Game isn't on his level.
When 2pac said in Hit'em Up that those niggaz weren't on his level nobody disagreed. Now that 50 said it everybody has something to say.
If 50 gave Game his biggest hits that he's right. Game isn't on his level.

real talk my nig.

whatever_expert · 05-24-2008, 09:44 PM

I swear to god I thought that it was Bruce willis.

Da Real Deal · 05-24-2008, 09:49 PM

Yo Flipperacci take 50's balls out your mouth lol

Lil Bad Uno · 05-24-2008, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Flipperacci

Putting Game in G-UNIt was a great business move for G-UNIT in the west. True that. But like the nigga said. Put Game in G-UNIT for bigger album sales. If Game wasn't in G-UNIT he wouldn't be this big. He been signed before but couldn't come out. Game had a chance before 50 to blow up. But he didn't.

I don't agree with that. 50 is the boss of G-Unit. If you signed to G-UNIT he's gonna be your boss. Thats just the way it is. Then he shouldn't be signed to G-UNIT. When you got your own business but you reply for an job and they hire you get an boss over there. Thats just the way it works.

FUCK ALL YA'LL. I agree with 50. First all. Game was signed before 50. Dre would drop him cuz it didn't worked out. 50 helped him. Banks and Buck wrote their album on their own. 50 gave Game his biggest hits so it's true that Game isn't on his level.
When 2pac said in Hit'em Up that those niggaz weren't on his level nobody disagreed. Now that 50 said it everybody has something to say.
If 50 gave Game his biggest hits that he's right. Game isn't on his level.

Go write a book or something you snitch ass nigga....lmfaoo
you killin me like you how typed about nothing....

Flipperacci · 05-25-2008, 01:52 AM

Kinda funny how Gaymefans are hating me cuz I got a point. Then they wanna get personal and say I'm this I'm that.

without Em and Dre I guess 50 wouldn't be hot like this.
But without 50, Game wouldn't be this big. And that is just something ya'll can't deny.

I mean Dre was gonna drop this guy. If he would blow up then why Jimmy put him in G-UNIT.

Dude said it right.
50 gave Game his biggest hits.

With that he also said that Game isn't on 50's level. Cuz he don't said that Game did better with everything that came after The Documentary.

05-24-2008, 02:55 PM	#1
YoungAl3xG AleX iS Like... Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Where haven't we been yet? Posts: 2,538 Thanks: 753 Thanked 5,003 Times in 618 Posts	05/24/08 - Bruce Williams:The REAL Doctor's Advocate Pt3(Talks About Detox,Game,50) 05/24/08 - Bruce Williams:The REAL Doctor's Advocate Pt3(Talks About Detox,Game,50) “Detox is the concept Dre had been trying to fully conceptualize for years. He was so serious at one point just after the second Chronic album that he had T-shirts made up…It was the farewell album he would walk off to, the one that might show him graduating from gangsta rap, basically. It made sense, going from The Chronic to Detox , because that’s what Dre had done, basically. The problem was, he didn’t know what to write about. Who wanted to hear about his stable, suburban life?” pgs 144-145 HipHopDX: Detox. You already know my question… Bruce Williams: People are on Dre about Detox and Dre never really wanted to do Detox. He’s 40-something [editor's note: 43] years old, what’s he going to talk about? He’s gotta relate to these 13 year olds buying records. What is he going to talk about? He can’t come out here saying, "Fuck the police," he can’t keep talking about smoking weed, he’s been there and done all that. Where is there to go now? But it has to be done and he’s going to make sure that shit is right before he puts it out. DX: Will we have to wait much longer to wait for Detox? BW: I don’t think so. If it comes out, I’ll be shocked - and I’ll also know that it has to come out. “…But Rakim was not the rapper he once was. He didn’t even rhyme in the studio with the crew hanging out. Dude was writing only at home. Dre wanted to do tracks in a way that allowed you to feel the camaraderie. Rakim’s a legend, but he was a legend in his day. The chemistry between these two just wasn’t there…” – pg 128 DX: So what exactly happened with the whole Rakim ordeal? BW: Oh My God album? Every time Dre did an interview, they asked him what emcee he would love to work with and his response was always the same: Rakim. We went through all this stuff trying to get Rakim and finally, Dre got Rakim. And with a title like Oh My God, the public was waiting on some astronomical shit! And they just never meshed together. A few of 50 Cent’s songs on Get Rich Or Die Tryin' were Rakim songs. Like “Back Down” and “Heat;” there were quite a few of them. I’ll put it to you like this: Rakim is a legend…let a legend be a legend. With all these new emcees and things sometimes the world is not going to appreciate this. We appreciate it because we grew up on it. DX: What is the deal with Aftermath and the “revolving door” of artists? BW: Look at Aftermath. Are they a household name? No, they’re not. I can say Aftermath, and people will say, “Who is that?” but when I say Dr. Dre, 50 Cent, Eminem then they get an idea. If you say G-Unit [click to read], everybody knows G-Unit. If you say Shady, everyone knows Shady. Aftermath is not a household name because we don’t put out enough stuff. Everybody’s catering to Dre and he don’t have time to nurture new artists. Why do you think Game had so many problems? Game couldn’t do hooks. But for two years he was hustling by himself. If you don’t push the acts that you have in your company, then your company will never be made whole. Dre is doing records for everyone else on Interscope and not building his own company up. That contributes to not really being a businessman. “When that beef between 50 Cent and The Game went public, Al Sharpton called over and asked for a half a million dollars. Otherwise he was going to bring the heat on behalf of 'The Community.' We gave him $250,000. Then we had The Game and 50 make up in public, holding an elaborate press conference.” Pg. 148 DX: In your book you basically say that Al Sharpton hustled you guys for money in order to not go and publicly march about the Game/50 Cent beef. BW: He said if we didn’t have a million, we marching. It’s that easy. Look at C. Delores Tucker back in the day. They was sitting up there talking all that bullshit when behind closed doors they was trying to start their own label. But that isn’t what they were telling motherfuckers in the street! We got a lot of black leaders that don’t do shit to me. I don’t see what they do. In the [Game vs. 50 Cent] situation, you are going to come and say, "We need ‘X’ amount of money,” whether you are going to give it to charity or not. Why don’t you come and say, “Hey, let’s all of us sit down and figure this out;” don’t come and say, “Give me a half a million dollars or we marching!” That didn’t even get the situation resolved. You seen it. They didn’t even look like they squashed anything. DX: So the so called squashing of the beef… BW: The entire thing was orchestrated by Al Sharpton. DX: Come on…are you serious? BW: Yeah, they do that shit all the time man! [So-called activists] don’t want nothing but money. We had to go to New York for this big meeting. Quincy Jones, Colin Powell, dude who runs Black Enterprise magazine [Earl G. Graves, Sr.], one of Malcolm X’s daughters, Puffy. When Death Row was big. They were trying to tell us how to use our power and use our money. Where were you when we were trying to get this money? None of you were trying to get us a record deal, yet, all of you talk shit about us and then you don’t put a foot forward [in helping us]. They try to tell us how to use our money but they weren’t fucking with us before that. “’You know what?' asked Busta Rhymes after taking in one particularly take, ‘When you’re rappin’, sometimes your shit is just so borderline disrespectful. I mean you really take it there!’ Everyone busted out laughing. That’s what’s great about The Game. And that’s his problem too. His 2004 album, The Documentary, is the sound of someone struggling to keep up with the talent around him. He didn’t always respect his place in the process…” – pg 140 DX: So back to 50 Cent and Game. How real was this beef? BW: Game and 50 wasn’t cool with that situation from jump. Jimmy Iovine was the one who was the brainchild of putting Game in G-Unit because that gave G-Unit a bigger presence on the west coast, plus Game had a bigger buzz on the east than the west at the time. So that way Game could ride with G-Unit and vice versa. Just for bigger album sales. But you gotta understand that Lloyd Banks and Tony Yayo were soldiers for 50. Game already had a deal with Aftermath. Game already had his own people. Game and 50 are very similar in their ways, and never really did like each other. But they understood the game. 50 gave Game a few of his songs for Game’s album and those were Game’s biggest hits. [50 Cent] did the hooks. But 50 wanted Game to be a soldier and Game did not want to be a soldier. That’s just the way it was. 50 wanted to be the boss. You gotta think about the timing of all this. At one time, everyone was talking about Game. 50 was pushing up his album. All the beef stuff was a little orchestration of jealousy. The video for “This Is How We Do” was supposed to be like this: one side of the street would be Cali and the other side would be New York. 50’s on one side and Game would be on the other. 50 didn’t want to do the video. Reason why? [50 Cent said] “Game wasn’t on my level if people see me and Game doing a video together they will think that he’s on my level.” DX: Damn… BW: I felt Dre should have stepped up to the plate on that. He’s the icon, he could have shut that whole thing down. Sometimes you have to take that role. But if you don’t, the beef is going to go where it’s going to go. DX: So did you ever hear all these so called projects that were supposed to come out that never did? BW: Did I hear it? Shit, I still got it! DX: Are there that many songs in the vault? BW: He has a whole bunch of songs that never made it out. I still have Rakim songs. DX: What about the rumored Helter Skelter album with Ice Cube? BW: We didn’t finish the Helter Skelter album. If Dre ever decides to put out the shit that he has in the vault, you’d be like, “Wow!” DX: So what finally led to your departure from Dre and the industry? BW: I want our whole crew to make it. Dre was supposed to be the roots of that strong tree and we were supposed to be the branches. Don’t tell me what we’re going to do. Seventeen years went by and nothing materialized. I got three kids and a wife. He didn’t want to hear my mouth anymore so he had me doing stuff for his wife. I started thinking that I was going to be a retired-ass dude who never got to do what he wanted to do. You want to step out on your own but you think about being around Dre for so long and how is the rest of the world going to accept me? I just finally made that decision. My last conversation in Aftermath with Dre was me telling him I had to go to a meeting…I just never came back. “In hindsight, things have gone down between me and the biz exactly as they are supposed to. Experience was the salary at both Death Row and Aftermath. My genius friend can be irresponsible and self-absorbed, but the cat can teach a lesson in his own special way. I’m happy where I am now. I helped make history with my man Dre. And I got to witness the strengths of street knowledge – and its weaknesses. And even if a part of me wishes I could have been there to watch the Doctor struggle through another album-patient, I’m not complaining in the least. It ain’t all bad being the man next to da man.” source-hiphopdx.com __________________

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Da Real Deal Change Gon' Come Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicago Illinois/Jackson,MS Posts: 2,144 Thanks: 335 Thanked 1,528 Times in 124 Posts	Yo Flipperacci take 50's balls out your mouth lol __________________ ▐▐█▐ ▐▐█▐"All Money In, No Money Out"▐▐█▐ ▐▐█▐

05-24-2008, 03:25 PM	#3
London89 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: London Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	50 knew Game was gonna blow up to become big...he was from the westcoast home of gangster rap...50 a selfish and jelous motherfucker!!! 1

05-24-2008, 03:35 PM	#4
Gametime310 NEG ME ALL U WANT *****! Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Plainfield, nj Posts: 583 Thanks: 147 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	game surpassed 50's level

05-24-2008, 05:20 PM	#7
xtreme08 Banned Join Date: May 2008 Location: pasadena Posts: 215 Thanks: 16 Thanked 116 Times in 16 Posts	just shows how much of a snake snitchy cent is

05-24-2008, 07:11 PM	#8
DaTalkOfCaLi Veteran Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: SoUtH CaLi Posts: 2,424 Thanks: 72 Thanked 127 Times in 37 Posts	Al sharpto is a crooked muthafuka....I fukn hate that fake ass nigga...I'm no 1 to be talkn about anyone being a godly person or not...but 4rm wat I see this nigga is not godly if he is threating ppl 4 money Fuck all sharpton...fak eass perm havn muthafukan bitch

05-24-2008, 09:44 PM	#14
whatever_expert AHHHHHH Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 2,329 Thanks: 774 Thanked 512 Times in 84 Posts	I swear to god I thought that it was Bruce willis.

05-25-2008, 01:52 AM	#17
Flipperacci -- Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: South East Amsterdam Posts: 792 Thanks: 17 Thanked 76 Times in 10 Posts	Kinda funny how Gaymefans are hating me cuz I got a point. Then they wanna get personal and say I'm this I'm that. without Em and Dre I guess 50 wouldn't be hot like this. But without 50, Game wouldn't be this big. And that is just something ya'll can't deny. I mean Dre was gonna drop this guy. If he would blow up then why Jimmy put him in G-UNIT. Dude said it right. 50 gave Game his biggest hits. With that he also said that Game isn't on 50's level. Cuz he don't said that Game did better with everything that came after The Documentary.